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Date: Sunday 17 January 2016
From: Joshua Dieffenbach <masterdieff•20150116190000•gmail.com>
Subject: Presidential Election
Wuill Bernie Sanders become President of the United States in 2016?
While the future Giga Society members express regret as to the grammatical quality of the question, said members assure the asker that no one of the name "Wuill B. Sanders" becomes President of the United States in A.D. 2016.
Date: Tuesday 8 September 2015
From: Joshua Dieffenbach <masterdieff•20150907182500•gmail.com>
Subject: Future Memories
Is it possible to have memories from future events?
No.
Date: Wednesday 25 March 2015
From: Josh Dieffenbach <masterdieff•20150324225000•gmail.com>
Subject: Regarding "The Last Question"
I've refined my previously posed question. First, though, I'd like to clarify that The Last Question is a science fiction short story by Isaac Asimov and not in fact the last question I ask of the Green Lodge.
Can the increase of entropy be reversed extra-temporally?
For clarity, the future members point out that the question is taken in its own right, and any references as provided in the asker's clarification ignored. Then, the asker regrettably includes the assumption that it is possible to act extra-temporally, thus implicitly asking two questions at once. Were the good members to answer this question with "yes" or "no", the asker would therefore still not know what the asker desired to know, for the asker would not know which of the two questions was being answered. For proper treatment of assumptions in questions, see the Psychometitor's pertinent frequently asked question, as has been said so emphatically before.
Date: Sunday 8 March 2015
From: Invicti Solis 3-3-3 <brandonhtcm8•2100000000000•gmail.com>
Subject: Expressing What Is Given
How might a prospective member, before they actually become a formal member, form a team in order to fully express our given component of the Verification?
Unfortunate as it is for the asker, the future Giga Society members do not recognize the concept of prospective membership. The question therefore disappears.
Date: Wednesday 23 July 2014
From: Charles Peden <earthpet•20140722234500•charter.net>
Subject: Philanthropy advice
What advice would the future Giga Society members offer for choosing a charitable organization when one wishes to make a philanthropic donation?
The future members are delighted to receive this excellent question, and emphasize that the most philanthropic donation possible in the asker's era is one to the organization I.Q. Tests for the High Range, for there is no better cause than those stated in said organization's goals — for the sake of example, the measurement and study of high mental ability.
Date: Saturday 31 May 2014
From: greaterthanyou <me•time.com
Subject: If Giga society is for this...
this mail, web app, and possible answers will disappear, since im going to be sure this society dont survive for a hundred years xD As a question... if i have an accident and kill with my car your grandfather in his sixth birthday, how are you going to answer, or better, to who I am writting if he doesn't born?
To the deep sadness of the members, the asker's question, however eloquently formulated, contains unmet conditions and can therefore not be answered. Out of kindness the members further point out that the conditions are the clauses starting with "if". Although superfluous, the good members allow me, Dr. Whither, to explain that none of the members' grandfathers were killed in their respective sixth birthdays, nor did any of the members not born.
Date: Monday 26 May 2014
From: Sil Otno <dsd.jps•201405251750•gmail.com>
Subject: diabetic macular edema
Do I exist within your present time?
Again, the regrettable condition of the asker's eyes appears to have missed vital advice on the t-mail form, given the subsequent message sent by the asker without waiting for a reply to the present message. Although I, Dr. Whither, would love nothing more than to kind-heartedly forgive this recidivism, some of the future members are less patient and choose to abstain from replying to messages from this asker hereafter. Oh, how it hurts Dr. Whither's heart.
Date: Monday 26 May 2014
From: Sil Otno <dsd.jps•201405251100•gmail.com>
Subject: diabetic macular edema
Will I be alive at the 31 May 2114, 11:00 hours, to be able to meet you in person?
The members concerned with this thread inform that they can not answer that question, since the pertinent date and time lie in their respective futures (as tends to be the case with appointments to be planned).
Date: Sunday 25 May 2014
From: Makhan Chor das <undercover757•201405252150•gmail.com>
Subject: GOD
Does god exists?
Again, the remotely future Giga Society members allow full disclosure of the present question's answer: No.
Date: Saturday 24 May 2014
From: Sil Otno <dsd.jps•201405241054•gmail.com>
Subject: diabetic macular edema
Can diabetic macular edema be treated with hyperbaric oxygen therapy satisfactory? If not what treatment would you recommend the most?
The future members express sincere concern as to the condition of the asker's eyes, which have so unfortunately kept the asker from noticing the, on the t-mail submission form nevertheless so prominently present and without-hidden-meanings formulated, instruction to send only one question at a time. As a general remark, the members note they are reluctant to give medical advice without a prior consultation in person. Does 31 May 2114, 11:00 hours, the Green Lodge, suit the asker?
Date: Wednesday 21 May 2014
From: Josh Dieffenbach <masterdieff•201405211705•gmail.com>
Subject: The Last Question
Can entropy ever be reversed?
To the regret of the members, there appear to be two errors in the asker's question: First, the asker uses "entropy" while intending to say "the increase of entropy". Second, and worse, the asker utilizes "ever", thus referring to a point in time, while speaking of a concept so closely related to time that referring to a point in time is meaningless. Increase of entropy is what defines the direction of time, and reversing that increase would mean to reverse the direction of time. Even if such is possible, it inherently takes place extra-temporally; that is, outside of time; that is, not "ever". So, the direct answer to the asker's question is, "No (but the real question is whether it can be reversed extra-temporally)".
Date: Wednesday 21 May 2014
From: Makhan Chor das <undercover757•201405212050•gmail.com>
Subject: New era
Is this right that in January 2023 there will be worldwide peace, a new era?
Although the future members in general have to take utmost care not to reveal information regarding what is the future to readers in any given time slice, by way of exception said members have kindly allowed me, Dr. Whither, to disclose the full and true answer to the asker's question: No.
Date: Tuesday 20 May 2014
From: Charles Peden <earthpet•20140520105500•charter.net>
Subject: T-mail timestamp comment
I received the following request by email today from somebody I do not know:
"Hey, quick question: do you know how to get t-mail messages submitted anymore? Back in the day, you just had to have an email address. Now they require a timestamp and for the life of me I can't figure out how to make a valid one. Your last message was around two years ago, so I wouldn't be surprised if you forgot or if the process has changed. If you can help me out, I'd appreciate it."
The answer to his question would be "yes, I know how to get a t-mail message submitted as evidenced by this comment". Out of kindness, I would like to let it be known that I do not wish to deny anyone the rewarding experience of putting in a timestamp successfully. If anyone else would like to inquire of me how to make a valid timestamp then my advice will be to "go put it in yourself (so to speak)".
—
Date: Thursday 1 May 2014
From: Makhan Chor dasa <undercover757•201405011803•gmail.com>
Subject: Question
What is the value of the US Dollar in 2019, expressed in EURO, CHF, INR, YEN
Again, the future members are appalled at the banality of the question. Out of kindness, they point out that while the value of a fiat currency is always zero, the exchange rates of such a currency may vary over a wide range in the course of any calendar year, and the asker has neglected to identify the specific date and time the asker's question refers to.
Date: Saturday 25 August 2012
From: Charles Peden <earthpet•20120824201400•charter.net>
Subject: Worldwide Strange Noise Event Of 2012
In January of 2012 there was a similar strange noise that was heard by many people all over the planet Earth. The noise was something like a large, hollow, metal object scraping the ground as it is pushed along the floor of an otherwise empty warehouse. It might also be described as similar to the noise Godzilla made in the original Japanese movies. There were video recordings (with sound) made as documentation. Trends in a popular search engine show an anomalous spike in search engine inquiries for the terms "strange sound" and "strange noise" being submitted from places all over the world around the same time. What insights about the strange noise event(s) in January 2012 are the future Giga Society members willing to offer us?
The future Giga Society members express dismay as to the trivial nature of this question. Whenever some "remarkable" event is reported on in the popular media, one tends to see a cascade of similar "sightings" which are a mixture of mass psychosis and fraud. Unexplained "noises" from the sky are about as common as are unidentified flying objects, alien abductions, and sexual abuse by satanists or priests. An insightful example from the asker's era can be observed in an amateur video film called Sky noises from another world. Is our world ending?
Date: Thursday 9 August 2012
From: ThothianBlueEagleWizard <blueagwiz•2012080935442•mail.com>
Subject: I am here now
Question: Please explicitly state the tones needed to enter south side of Giza/Memphis great pyramid.
With thou infinite wisdom doth one divine the tones. Entry to great pyramid at Giza/Memphis needed urgently. Techno priest knowledge of magic entry, yet undetected, now needed. Currently great eyes watch all moves. Please send. Time going short. Space time in danger. Understanding of the 13 achieved. Life on Earth weeps, time draws low. Send answer to society questions concerning cards back now. God Life and Love still exist in this space time.
Background thou must know. First physic experience involved Mayan calendar exacting references. Seek the clues as they exist in this earthly plane yet hidden as though a speck of sand among the beach. Know this, it is confirmed just now in August 2012.
Hear ye, my words, and follow the pathway.
Keep thou thy balance and live on in life.
Thothian Blue Eagle Wizard
Although I, Dr. Whither, initially was inclined to dismiss this message, the future Giga Society members have urged me to send it back for publication, so as to show the public an example of the type of content that some choose to enter in the so kindly provided web-based t-mail interface. Hereafter, this asker will submit messages to the extent of "I am going to send a number of questions; please answer them before I have sent them". Of course, that has been tried several times before, as can so clearly be seen in the t-mail message history; the future members have complied successfully the first time, and have indicated when it occurred a second time that they would not fulfil such requests again, a motivation being included with that indication. The current asker therefore is herewith unmasked as not having studied the t-mail archive before submitting questions, and anything further from said asker will naturally be ignored, insofar the quality of the asker's messages was not already sufficient cause in itself for their ignoring.
Date: Monday 27 February 2012
From: Charles Peden <earthpet•20120227125500•charter.net>
Subject: Credibility In The Future
There are several accounts of incredible claims that are difficult to completely dismiss as "false". Photographs, videos, recordings, and other forms of "evidence" seem to be losing their ability to convince because of their evolving ease in alteration. Credibility itself seems to increasingly rely on things more subjective. T-mail and Thoth could normally be dismissed as some sort of fictional amusements were it not for the integrity of Paul Cooijmans.
If t-mail and Thoth are both not fictional, then how difficult will it be to determine credibility in the future if such claims are to be accepted today with nothing to verify their veracity but the integrity of one man?
As often, the future members are stunned as to the asker's inability for formulate a clear, straightforward question. Not only are two (2) conditions included in this question - recognizable by the two instances of the word "if" -, the question itself appears to be unrelated to those conditions into the bargain, is vague and incomplete, and to add insult to injury asks for a quantifier of that incomplete vagueness?! For clarity, conditions in questions must be avoided, as a question containing an unmet condition can not be answered (and those inclined to include conditions in their questions tend to get their conditions unmet).
The unrelatedness of the question to its conditions lies in the general nature of "credibility" (of what?) as opposed to the specific nature of t-mail and Thoth (which appear in the conditions but are not the objects of the question). The vagueness lies in the fact that the question asks for the difficulty (a subjective concept) of something which is incomplete (determining the credibility of what?) The quantifier asked for is implied by the word "how" before "difficult".
To be as explicit and clear as humanly possible - not to imply in any way that the future Giga Society members are necessarily human -: The question to which the present answer refers is "how difficult will it be to determine credibility in the future", and the only thinkable answer the members, no matter how kind and forthcoming, can provide is, "in lack of a standardized scale of difficulty, no answer to this question could possibly have any meaning to the asker".
Date: Thursday 29 September 2011
From: Charles Peden <earthpet•20110929152500•charter.net>
Subject: Questions From Paul Cooijmans
Why aren't there any questions from Paul Cooijmans for the future Giga Society members on this website?
This question strikes the future members as not dissimilar to asking a psychic medium why the "spirits" never answer questions from the medium oneself but only from the medium's clients during a seance - not to suggest that psychic mediums exist, incidentally -, or asking a telephonist why he never calls himself for information on the firm for which he works. If the members have anything to communicate to meant person, they can do so privately.
Date: Sunday 31 July 2011
From: Charles Peden <charleslpeden•20110731102400•cgi.com>
Subject: Georgia Guidestones
What insights are the future Giga Society members willing to offer us about the engraved messages on the mysterious Georgia Guidestones?
The future members allow Dr. Whither to point out said stones are not mysterious at all, but are known to simply have been built by humans and contain self-explanatory engravings. Exactly who commissioned and designed them is irrelevant, as their message is one that every good, intelligent, rational person by and large agrees with. The stones' reference to Christian Rosenkreutz is to be understood as reclaiming that mythical name on the modern-day schools of rosicrucianism who contaminate it with their occult nonsense, and engaging it for a good cause.
Date: Thursday 19 May 2011
From: Charles Peden <earthpet•20110519124500•charter.net>
Subject: The Identity of Foods For Longevity
I apologize for the yes/no nature of my previous question. I was afraid you would disapprove if I first assumed such foods and/or ingredients would have been identified. In retrospect I believe I could have asked the question without an assumption that would have prompted for the list. What foods and/or ingredients that are commonly consumed have you identified as promoting or inhibiting longevity?
This question contains an assumption (that the future members have identified the meant foods or ingredients). Questions containing false assumptions can not be answered, and this assumption could have been false, for instance the identifying having been done by others, the members merely reporting on it by identifying the meant substances in response to this question. Also, only one question at a time is allowed; the words "promoting" and "inhibiting" imply, constitute, two questions. Given the low probability that the present asker would succeed in reformulating the question correctly however, the members allow me, Dr. Whither, to provide the following information be means of "answer":
All commonly consumed nutrients inhibit longevity when used beyond moderation. There exist no nutrients that promote longevity. The key to longevity lies not in nutrition but in stress avoidance and physical activity, combined with a moderate food intake.
Date: Wednesday 18 May 2011
From: Charles Peden <earthpet•20110518124500•charter.net>
Subject: Foods and longevity
Are there foods and/or ingredients that are commonly consumed which promote or inhibit longevity?
The future Giga Society members answer this with a straightforward "yes", and in addition express their deep disappointment as to the by the asker no doubt deliberately chosen yes/no nature of the question, which however sadly prevents the members from subsequently identifying the relevant foods.
Date: Tuesday 5 April 2011
From: lb <lb94358•20110404204200•hotmail.com>
Subject: Greets
I would like to ask about the "former United States" referenced in the 2020 issue of Nemesis. At present, there doesn't appear to be any visible strife between the individual states of the United States and the federal government, although The Federal Reserve Note does continue to lose value as our fiat currency of choice. From the beginning of 2011 to it's demise, what influential events transpire leading up to and culminate in the dissolution of the United States? Important events relevant to the question will suffice as I am simply trying to understand a brief timeline of how this might occur and make preparations. I would also like to add that I have had some prior knowledge of almost every concept on this site so there should be no fear of a shock induced suicide attempt. I understand the responsibility that you feel you have, but I must remind you that not everyone leaving messages here for future responders such as yourself are as unprepared and uninformed about these potential outcomes.
First, it must be stressed that while the present asker may believe to be prepared for a "shock", many among the millions of readers of these messages are not, so care has to be taken still.
Then, for clarity: It is assumed the asker refers to the Nemesis issue quoted at http://www.paulcooijmans.com/prose/upperland/timelords.html. The asker is alerted to the fact the author of the report is given as "Time Lord Five". Now, in reality, we Time Lords have names, not numbers. The use of a number instead of a name betrays that something unusual is going on; in this case, one of the Time Lords has been practicing humour, or "poking fun". The object thereof was a particular contributor to a certain I.Q. society journal, who in the 1990s was noted for writing lengthy, vague, woolly letters to the editor, as well as for being strongly opposed to tap water fluoridation. This contributor resided in the United States.
The contents of the report, including the word "former", should therefore be taken as fiction and as parody. The report has been sent backward in time to the 1998 Paul Cooijmans, who was a contributor to the same journal at the time, and completely unaware of the satirical nature of the report and of its relation to meant contributor. Good-natured as he is, he would never have published it otherwise, and rather have bitten off his tongue than to mock someone for submitting endless pieces of empty rambling that never get to the point.
Date: Friday 17 December 2010
From: Charles Peden <earthpet•%Y%m%d%H%M%S•charter.net>
Subject: Hail!
Why are you making it known of your existence through and association with Paul Cooijmans?
The future Giga Society members allow Dr. Whither to congratulate the asker with the asker's unparalleled mastery of grammar. An answer however is nonexistent as a result of the multi-interpretable nature of the question's masterful formulation, as well as of the false assumptions contained in any possible interpretation of said phrasing.
Date: Saturday 18 September 2010
From: David Bandel <dwb1729•2010918173730•gmail.com>
Subject: 22nd's Solution to Continuity of Consciousness
A leaked issue of "Nemesis" outlined a method for augmenting human intelligence via biologically compatible artificial neural networks. Mention was also made that the problem of continuity of consciousness was solved.
How is this problem solved exactly?
I understand that additional artificial neural material will continually augment intelligence, but I can't imagine a glial/synaptic function that would replace or reduce tissue. So it seems as though no matter what, at some point in making the final step from tech/bio hybrid to full-tech, tissue needs to be copied/transferred/removed to an artificial medium resulting in at least a partial "copying" and in effect "destruction" of consciousness.
I am certain your solution is elegant and possibly beyond my comprehension but it is something I am exceedingly curious about.
The future Giga Society members are slightly dismayed to see the method from HEAVEN.COM described as "a method for augmenting human intelligence", with mention "also" being made that the problem of continuity of awareness was solved. As to be read there, the second is how the method is primarily presented, the first is what is "also" mentioned.
The answer to the asker's question is given in said Report of Dr. Whence itself, so that the question is actually superfluous. Out of kindness it is pointed out to the asker that awareness is not in any way bound to a particular individual physical substrate - the individual biological brain tissue in this case - but is something that takes place in the event-structure of neurons firing. Awareness is a structure of events, it takes place in time and space but is indifferent with regard to the underlying matter, does not require a particular, individual, irreplaceable, accumulation of matter. The substrate is interchangeable, can be destroyed without ending the individual's awareness, once that awareness has (also) found place in connected other substrate.
So there is no need to ever copy or transfer tissue. Awareness has no point-location in tissue but is holographically spread out in space, and destroying part of the substrate in that extendedness does not destroy the awareness, as demonstrated by strokes, brain surgery removing parts of brains, and accidents destroying parts of brains. As long as enough of the substrate occupied by the awareness remains, that same awareness, or "I", continues, just as the object depicted in a holograph can still be seen after part of the holograph has been destroyed.
Another way of saying this is to state that tissue - matter, neurons, electronic circuits - has no identity. The identity lies in the event-structure, not in the tissue, and does not change when the tissue is changed. Dr. Whence oneself points out here that when it comes to the actual memories stored in the biological tissue - which is perhaps what the asker really meant - , these do not need to be physically copied or transferred. During the period wherein the awareness occupies both the biological and the artificial brain (being indifferent to which is which and treating them as one), all of the memories contained in the biological brain are holographically spread over the substrate being occupied (indifferent to which is biological and which is artificial), so that the eventual destruction of the biological brain does not destroy any information, provided the artificial brain was made large enough. This holographic spreading is what a brain naturally does. No novel "solution" needs to be invented for it.
Date: Monday 15 March 2010
From: Caelan James <nforceb•1268329767•gmail.com>
Subject: Death
Can you explain more about the White Male holocaust? How can we prevent this and other disasters?
Caelan
Not for the first time, it is pointed out only one question per message is allowed, as so deceptively clearly and without hidden meanings stated on the web-based t-mail interface. And although the future Giga Society members are in general so kind as to parse the message in such a case, extracting the first question and answering that, in the present case even that accommodation is not viable as the asker has in one's unthinkingness formulated an unintended yes/no question so that a possible answer would be of little use and a mere waste of the members' future time.
Out of kindness the asker is alerted to the fact that such errors are a result of taking far too little time for and putting far too little effort into phrasing a question. For information, conscientious askers are known to require an average of three (3) months in order to formulate a meaningful question, and even they succeed at best once or twice in a decade, and rarely more than trice in their lifetimes, in sending a message the future members would even call "satisfactory".
Date: Sunday 14 March 2010
From: Caelan James <nforceb•1268580742•gmail.com>
Subject: Future Word
I respectfully understand your decision. I have another question, if you could please take the time to answer. Whilst reading all of the messages on the website, I encountered some that were asking where to go (messages 2032 - 2057). These messages hint that there will be some sort of disaster (within my lifetime, I'm only 16) in and around 2032. My question is, when will it happen (and what is it)?
Caelan
The future members know of many disasters during the asker's lifetime. In and around 2032, several long-term developments are taking place, but no one particular disaster. For instance, the New Ice Age is going through a moderate break before finally sinking into its coldest phase, this moderate period allowing the relatively few survivors of the preceding auto-genocide on Europeans and their descendants, together with the even smaller handful of remaining heterosexual White males - that holocaust was near to complete - , to prepare for a last stand. The year 2032 itself is primarily notorious for two new laws issued by the invaders-from-within who won the First European Civil War: One that requires women to have all of their teeth pulled out without anaesthetic when - and if, so actually only in the hardiest cases - reaching the age of twenty-one; and one that requires them to wear muzzles whenever leaving their cabin or cave (so, in actuality not all too often).
Date: Saturday 13 March 2010
From: Caelan James <nforceb•1268329767•gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Future Word
Could you just send it to me, and not put it on the website? Or send the reply to this message back instantly, since the time your message was sent is not displayed on the website? If not, I would completely understand.
Caelan
I, Dr. Whither, humbly observe that both of these options have been thoroughly covered already by the response to the previous message and by the responses referred to therein. To further stress the danger of what the asker is trying to do, the future members allow my doctorship to remind one of the mass suicide of muzzled women of 2033, at the eve of the Second European Civil War, which - the suicide, not the war - was at least partly triggered by the realization that t-mail is "real" (and by the therefrom resulting insight into one's future or lack thereof).
Date: Saturday 13 March 2010
From: Caelan James <nforceb•1268329767•gmail.com>
Subject: Future Word
On March 15th, 2010 (Today is March 13th 2010), I will send you an 18 character set of numbers. If you can tell me what this number is before that date (Instantly would be even better), then that would be stupendous because I want to assure myself (and not only) you are really from the future and "t-mail" is real. I would not only be amazed and glorified, but I would be humble and respectful for your response.
Caelan
The humble future Giga Society members kindly point out the dangers of an experiment like this have been explained already in response to Milly's message of 19 April 2009. The psychological shock of realizing t-mail is real would instantly kill hundreds of readers in your time slice alone.
Having said that, the members remind that an almost identical experiment has been done before as seen in the messages of 25 and 27 May 2009, and that it is there clearly stated the members will not again participate in such. Incidentally, in said experiment the members accurately revealed the contents of a message of Saturday 31 May 2009 a good five or six days before that date, thus proving t-mail is "real", and sadly resulting in over a hundred casualties, not counting those in the subsequent school shootouts.
Date: Sunday 7 February 2010
From: Alexander Morou <Alex•1633761860•AlexanderMorou.com>
Subject: Curious (Part II)
Sorry for the message a few years ago,
I just had a question, and figured this would be the best group to answer it.
Your temporal-mail message center uses the static point of delivery time: Sat, 19 Jul 2036 23:32:03 GMT. I was wondering how you were able to answer every possible message simultaneously. Unless your every interaction with reality is autonomic and thus millions, if not billions can be answered simultaneously.
Let me know, I'm interested.
Again the future members point out that earlier messages have clarified the working of t-mail sufficiently to make questions like this superfluous. Out of kindness, it is furthermore explained that what the asker calls "delivery time" of a message is irrelevant in this respect, as answering takes place in the remote future after which the answer is sent backward in time to the desired time slice. There is no necessity to answer simultaneously "delivered" messages at one and the same moment in the future, as their answers can be sent back to any desired time. Therefore the question contains the false assumption that messages are answered simultaneously, and can not be answered. The proper treatment of assumptions in questions is, as noted before, explained splendidly by the Pyschometitor.
Date: Tuesday 12 January 2010
From: Torstein <post•kast.no>
Subject: Funny function
what happena 20:12 20.12 2012
The future Giga Society members express disappointment as to the regrettable quality of this "question". Apart from the fact the asker has omitted the location, out of an astronomical amount of possible ones, for which the asker desires to know what takes place at the given moment, a similar question has been asked by Milly on 17 April 2009, revealing that the asker has not studied the so kindly made available archive.
In addition, it must be noted that no particular number sequence in a human-invented time reckoning has extra meaning over any other. Such notion betrays the absence of ratio. Finally I, Dr. Whither, point out that profound questions are a much more fruitful use of the precious gift that t-mail constitutes than are random unthinking trivialities.
Date: Wednesday 23 September 2009
From: Ben <LugO1+hotmail.com>
Subject: The biggest question
Why would any victim want to advance humanity after what it's done to him, after seeing its true face?
And by "empathy" before I meant having emotions of sympathy. Or at the very least being cognitively inclined towards a sympathetic behavior - by respecting others, being truthful, conscientious, etc.
On behalf of the future Giga Society members, I Dr. Whither kindly point out two false assumptions in the question, which can therefore not be answered directly: First, a genius - which is what is meant here, given the suggestion of advancing humanity - does not "want" to advance humanity. Such advancement is merely a byproduct of the irresistible inner drive to understand all that is, to create. The genius can not but follow that drive, can not help advancing humanity into the bargain.
Second, the torture implicit in the question is not the true face of humanity (as the question implies), but of a subset thereof, the torturers, the inferiors, who must be removed and kept from breeding.
Finally, the members conclude that the asker has a different interpretation of "empathy" than have the members.
Date: Tuesday 22 September 2009
From: Ben <LugO1+hotmail.com>
Subject: Clarification
They were not "children", but fully grown and almost 18 years old by the time I left them. I did exaggerate about their professional success, but only because they're still too young (mid 20s) to be what they aim at, which for most isn't law or medicine (and for some is) just by coincidence. They have more intelligence than is required for these professions (it was a class for the gifted). Really now, haven't you noticed that people low on empathy tend to be more common within the high iq regions ?
The Future Giga Society members note that the asker's highly valued clarification appears to reveal a number of misunderstandings which the members will kindly point out:
That "they" were not children is consistent with the members' previous answer, although the asker seems to erroneously have understood the opposite; The answer says explicitly that the torture does not stop after childhood.
The asker further admits in his present message that it concerned a class for the gifted; so, a class of only intelligent persons. Therefore the torturers could a priori only have been intelligent, and this fact logically constitutes no argument for the thesis that the intelligent tend to be torturers rather than the lowly intelligent. It simply could not have been otherwise in this case, as there were no lowly intelligent individuals available. The asker's case therefore forms no challenge to the members' position that while torturers may be of any intelligence level, they are located more often on the low than on the high end of the spectrum.
The admission regarding the class for the gifted also may hold the key to the asker's original question: Is the asker a rare case for not arising purer? Had the asker been subjected to and tortured by the lowly intelligent, the torture had undoubtedly been very much more brutal and, had the asker survived - which is to a high degree uncertain - , the asker would by now have been closer to purification. It must again be stressed that the asker would not have been less depressed in that case; on the utmost contrary. There exists no greater suffering than the purification of who are meant for the highest.
Finally, the asker is presumptuous in inquiring whether the members have not noticed that "people low on empathy tend to be more common within the high iq regions". For the members, having studied Hans Asperger's and the Psychometitor's writings, know as no other that the intellect-oriented tend to be disturbed in their mammalian instincts (such as empathy). However, torturers as meant in this case are most typically those who have the ancient instincts of empathy and nonverbality intact, regardless of their intelligence; the instinct-driven.
Date: Friday 18 September 2009
From: Ben <LugO1+hotmail.com>
Subject: My own account
Hello,
I have a certain syndrome, that makes me a little slow with things.
I had been, as one may describe it- tortured, by my classmates. Only, it did not seem like that to them - they didn't give it much or any thought (except for making it harder and longer, the usual), and had absolutely no remorse since. They are all highly intelligent (above mensa level), and also very successful today as doctors, judges, professors, etc. Their excuse for the beatings was me being 'weak'/'stupid'/both. Though most were weaker or more stupid than I was (but of course not as a group). Being treated like shit did not make me feel like I'm "arising purer", only plunging deeper- into depression. Am I a rare case, then?
The future Giga Society members see you are referring to the Psychometitor's classic work Inferiority - the opposite of genius , section "The possible evolutionary function of inferiority". Your question is interpreted by the members as "Am I a rare case for not arising purer and advancing humankind, but instead plunging into depression?"
The answer is "No". Although that suffices considering the poor formulation of the question, out of kindness the following additional information is provided: It must be understood that not all who are tortured arise purer to become geniuses; Only those with sufficient amounts of intelligence, associative horizon, and conscientiousness do. A cow is an animal, but not all animals are cows. Inferiors are only human after all, and may occasionally torture someone of less than genius material by mistake. Also, even in who have the potential to arise purer, this does not happen overnight. The torture does not stop after childhood but continues, requiring decades of persistence to arise.
That torturers have no remorse too is not rare, but the rule. They never have, instead they either blame the victim or deny the torture and call it "paranoid delusions". That torturers are highly intelligent also is not impossible. It has never been said all inferiors are lowly intelligent. Low intelligence is merely one of the features of inferiority, and an inferior need not have all of the features but only several thereof, as said so clearly and explicitly by the Psychometitor in the relevant article. Inferiors may occur over a wide range of the intelligence spectrum, be it that the bulk is below average. And specifically in childhood, when sense of responsibility and abstract thinking have not yet developed in most, intellect fails to make the instinct-driven immune to inferior behaviour. Having said that, the future Giga Society members sense that intelligence and professional success of the torturers are being exaggerated in the present case for the sake of argument, for the sake of intelligent-bashing, and out of that so often seen paralyzing politically correct fear to associate low intelligence with inferiority.
Finally, the members wish the asker strength in attempting to arise purer, but warn that the long road to arising purer is harder than any torture or depression can ever be.
Date: Sunday 30 August 2009
From: Blackburn <blackburn.20090829202600.pookmail.com>
Subject: Brain structure and intelligence
Recent studies suggest that the brains of those diagnosed with asperger's syndrome and high-functioning autism have higher-than-normal levels of white matter. Other studies suggest that there are white matter deficiencies in those diagnosed with and at risk for schizophrenia. It has been found that certain areas of Albert Einstein's brain had a higher proportion of glial cells to neurons than the average brain.
Not being a neuroscientist, merely an amateur internet information-collector, I tend to look at brain function in an overly-simplified manner. With that caveat well in mind, I shall continue. From what I am aware, glial cells and white matter, while not necessarily being one and the same, are closely related.
Of all the conclusions one could draw from this currently limited information, and of all the questions which could be asked of future Giga Society members in regards to this (admittedly pathetic) information, I will present one in the hope that I receive an equally overly-simplified answer to said question.
In what way, if any, are glial cells and white matter related to general intelligence? In other words, are people on one or another spot on the intelligence spectrum often found to have particular white matter volume, structure, or functioning?
The future Giga Society members allow me, the humble Dr. Whither, to reveal the following findings of to you remotely future research: White matter and glia cells support and feed the gray matter - neurons - in a number of physical ways, and are required for the neurons to function. The primary relation of brain matter to general intelligence though is that of gray matter: More is better. Isis, for instance, has a gray matter volume in the order of 108 to 109 cubic kilometres, yielding an I.Q. of approximately 240. Yes, that is how much is needed to escape the normal human range of intelligence. So whenever someone claims an I.Q. of 220, 230 or thereabout... just look at the size of that person's head and ask yourself if something roughly half the size of the Moon (including the additionally needed white matter) would fit in there.
The amount and distribution of supportive white matter in a brain are affected by the nature and extent of the cortical activity. Hard and frequent or continuous intellectual, cerebral work, for instance, requires much energy, and the white matter expands to accommodate the neurons in those areas. This is analogous to the improved energy supply to muscles that one gets after a period of physical exercise. Aspergoid persons have an impairment of the deep, ancient instinctive brain functions, which they from early childhood on tend to compensate via the intellect, using their brain in the manner of an adult scientist. Hence their increased white matter. So, the volume of white matter not so much relates to intelligence itself, as to the actual use of the intellectual functions.
Psychosis on the other hand - living out of touch with reality, in a state of delusion and/or hallucination - reduces white matter, as do a number of other causes like: Recreational drug use; laziness; unconscientiousness; consumptive as opposed to creative behaviour; wastefulness; high sexual activity; belief in pseudoscience, the occult, the paranormal, God et cetera; lying; interpreting facial expression, intonation, or "body language"; committing crimes; meditation; listening to certain types of music - to name but a few.
Date: Wednesday 26 August 2009
From: Joseph Vaccaro <joevvaccaro•20090826133125•gmail.com>
Subject: Executable files.
Why are executable files such as FLAMINGHELL.EXE still utilized during an age in which technology has advanced to the point of the artificial mimicking and implementation of the human mind onto a virtual environment?
The good Dr. Whence, who wrote the relevant Official Report for a 2015 issue of Giga Society journal Nemesis, kindly points out there is no mention of any "executable file" in his report. FLAMINGHELL.EXE is merely the name of a program that creates a virtual environment to the new-brained mind. In addition, there is no question of "mimicking" the human mind in the meant technology; It is the original human mind itself that takes into use the new brain. That is exactly the point; Were it "mimicking", it would be only a copy of the mind, and there would still not be a continuation of the original awareness of the individual, and therefore of the individual.
Date: Saturday 1 January 2071
From: PsychoMetitor <PM•20710101224531•gigasociety.com>
Subject: Spoofed T-mail address
Plotzky.
"The future Giga Society members thank you for your interest. However, there exist several reasons, each in itself sufficient, that compel to believe your t-mail address has been "spoofed" and substantial aspects of your message are incorrect. Nevertheless you are given the opportunity to verify your claims with us. Kindly mention in your next message the hereafter displayed code word: Plotzky
After you have thus confirmed your time slice, we will proceed to the next, and final, test to establish whether or not you are the new Psychometitor."
Thank you for confirming your time slice as being of six decades earlier than you still ignorantly claim. The code word is time-slice-specific to enable verification of your whenabouts. It is inserted dynamically on each respective mirror of this page. This means you have been identified as an impostor. Do be relieved and wholeheartedly thank the future Giga Society members for kindly exposing you in this elegant way, for the next, and final, test to determine your possible Psychometitorship would have involved the enjoyment of one or two less than euphoric moments in the event of failure. Do not tempt us to tell.
[Clarification for who can not understand the preceding paragraph: The code word is different on each time slice mirror of this page. It is only "Plotzky" in a time slice six decades before the self-claimed time slice, so by returning "Plotzky" the self-claimed "PsychoMetitor" has unwittingly provided proof of one's whenabouts, and therefore of "spoofing" one's t-mail address. Let this be a lesson. The future Giga Society members are not that easily fooled.]
Date: Friday 31 December 2070
From: PsychoMetitor <PM•20701231235959•gigasociety.com>
Subject: Help
Dearest friends,
I was recently summoned to take up the role of Psychometitor.
This is a great honor for me and I'm very glad to have been appointed. I hope that the fact that your kind has/will been/be replying to past messages is some sort of reflection of the quality of the selections I'll be making in the years to come.
Sadly, the honorable and long-lived Paul-C was not able to pass on his measuring devices before passing away last summer. I trust that he foresaw this and safeguarded all of the information needed for valid psychometrics in your hands. If this were the case, please be kind enough to send me all tests, answer sheets and scaling system, so that I can continue with the legacy.
With deep appreciation,
2070PM
The future Giga Society members thank you for your interest. However, there exist several reasons, each in itself sufficient, that compel to believe your t-mail address has been "spoofed" and substantial aspects of your message are incorrect. Nevertheless you are given the opportunity to verify your claims with us. Kindly mention in your next message the hereafter displayed code word:
After you have thus confirmed your time slice, we will proceed to the next, and final, test to establish whether or not you are the new Psychometitor.
Date: Sunday 12 August 2057
From: Belle M. <bellem•20570812120000•octopus.neuron>
Subject: Belle's last t-quest
Message: Help please. This last message since power no longer be kept and bullet running out for keep off the subs. Shoot few all days but soon will get us. Help. Need moore ••••• bullet. Look is bullet: •. Or where go? Ice come closer year and year. Person who do elfsteedtocht all summers cancel it now first time 25 year since can no find canals under polar ice for skate. Ice sheet no melts in summer more. But if go south are more inferior subs who kill. What do? And what strange message you just sent? Is Psychometitor? Thank and love you for all time. Help.
Belle.
Dear Belle: You and your families are the brightest of your time. Everything goes as the Psychometitor predicted in 2008 in Human degeneration. Modal I.Q. is plummeting through the decades-long paralyzing Marxist policies instated and enforced by the generations before you; by your own immediate, highly intelligent but narrow-horizoned and cowardly, forefathers.
Let the inferiors have the warmer areas. Let them go south. You can not fight them for long as in the short term the bad are stronger than the good. Go north, where the ice is. The subhumans can not survive there for lack of intelligence. Use animal fur for clothes and live in houses of snow blocks. Eat fish. They are the things that swim under the ice. Over time you will evolve into a species smarter than has ever been. Human intelligence develops as an adaptation to ice age conditions, and you are the chosen ones to take the next step in evolution. In several millennia, when it gets warm again, your people will crystallize their new raw intelligence into language, culture, architecture, art and science, and that civilization will populate the worlds. The masses of degenerates who now brutally take the warm areas will have become of a lower genus and serve as zoo animals, beasts of burden, or game to your descendants. Go, now that you still number in the thousands. The future Giga Society members show you this reply before you sent the corresponding message, because your power will run out after sending it. Memorize it, share it with your people, and study it well. You were the last of your era able to communicate with us. We will remember you.
Date: Friday 20 December 2047
From: nemesis•20471220235959•
Subject: help
Dr. Whither,
Ashamed about previous mail, not dared write u for 15 years.
You were right, I just failed; new DNA marker on Chrom6 was joke. Singularity!...naive...debacle, all too fast.
Friends, family, most death...where to hunt, walkin exhausting; not many safe houses left, scarce power.
Teaching son to do fire, he is fast learner, teaching to read while walkin thru safe areas. Taken aback by barbarity, how to protect my son? where are Giga members? help pls.
All best.
For protection, best go to places bad people find unpleasant; cold, uninhabitable, early mornings. Avoid contact with them. Try to find Belle M. at Octopus. Go to the forest early on Sunday mornings. Look for a small round pond with diametrically opposed benches. From the westernmost bench, look to the west. Behind the fallen dens lies moore.
The Giga Society members are in the Green Lodge.
Date: Friday 22 June 2046
From: TheRealPsych <psychometitor•20460622113045•octopus.neuron>
Subject: The real new Psychometitor
Good that you caught that impostor of "2070"! 2070, my foot! No, I am the one who will select several of you, dear future Giga Society members! I request that you send the late Psychometitor's tests, especially including the correct answers used by the good Dr. Cooijmans, to me. I herewith verify my time slice with you: The code word dynamically inserted on my mirror is "Rochus". I trust that suffices. Thank you in advance for providing me with the hardest tests in the universe that I need to do my work!
The future Giga Society members are delighted to hear from you. Your time slice has been confirmed by your returning the appropriate code word for your t-mail address. However, this only shows you are indeed writing from June 2046, not yet that you are the new Psychometitor. To verify that, a next, final, test will now be conducted.
Be warned; I, Dr. Whither, shudder at the thought of what may happen. Sensitive readers are well advised to look away during the following paragraphs, or at least have a good strong cup of coffee. What you must do is this:
Go to the nearest canal bridge. If needed, cut a hole of two by two metre in the ice directly under it. Put a lead belt of forty kilogram tightly around your waist. Certify that no one can see you. Kindly step off the bridge, slowly exhaling through your nose.
Have no fear; If you are indeed the new Psychometitor who will select some of us, your death at that point would cause a time paradox, so whatever you do, you will be saved and survive in some unexpected way. If on the other hand you are just another impostor, well, too bad, nothing lost.
So all you need to do is notify us that you survived this trial. Just saying that you survived is not enough, as anyone could do that. Luckily, in a case like this the time-space continuum throws an event-specific Paradox Error, the decimal expansion of which is by default branded on one's body, typically in an awkward place one can not see oneself. You may actually feel a burning sensation while in the water. If still able thereafter, go to a physician, and quickly explain that you are in contact with prominent figures from the remote future who require you to inform them of a Time Paradox Error code imprinted on your body. The doctor will at once be understanding and helpful, and write down the code for you, typically on a small piece of paper in bad handwriting. Send it to us by t-mail as proof your Psychometitorship.
[Surprisingly, later messages from this promising candidate appear to be missing from the RAIRAID in the Green Lodge.]
Date: Monday 20 December 2032
From: nemesis•20321220235959•
Subject: help
Dear Psychometitor,
Things are getting nasty back here. Fundamentalism breaking out by the minute. Singularity will never be permitted to happen - Kurzweil and "acolytes" are to be judged next January. Fear that in the name of innate human nature most of us will be, somehow, banished.
Thinking about emigrating but still do not know where. What is your recommendation?
My best
We are not the Psychometitor. This is Dr. Whither, on behalf of the future Giga Society members among whom may or may not be the Psychometitor. Emigration is for cowards. You still have a short while left. Whether singularity is "permitted" is irrelevant; What matters is whether it is still possible. Remember: Until singularity, technology has no momentum of itself, but depends entirely on the innate human intelligence that creates it. And when modal I.Q. sinks under 90, industrial society stops altogether, let alone that one could be approaching singularity. You are speaking of being permitted to the summit, while really you are about to be kicked out of base camp. You need to raise genetic intelligence to ensure there will be any technology left at all in twenty-five years. Be quick. You are now in the low nineties, and there's still time to change the road you're on. We recommend not to waste it.
Date: Friday 17 July 2009
From: masterdieff@gmail.com
Subject: Timewave Zero
Is there any validity to the concept of Timewave Zero as first put forth by Terrence McKenna?
The future Giga Society members, including Thoth and Isis, are unanimous in their strongest possible negation of any validity to the named concept.
Date: Sunday 21 June 2009
From: Milly <milly+fastmail.fm>
Subject: Bahh... Just forget I asked about that issue
Last question - Are there pure atlanteans to be found anywhere today - any settlement or lineage that survived?
Pure Atlanteans are not found as, after the disaster, the surviving groups over generations have become different from their original stock through genetic drift, founder effect, admixture, adaptation to environment, inbreeding, or various dysgenic and degenerating effects. One should realize that a small isolated outpost on an island, once contact with the homeland is lost, loses the art of navigating the seas within two generations, and even the art of making fire within several centuries. Worry not though, as the Atlanteans in turn descended from the same race of humans as several of the current peoples, so that you have the option of attaining the level of the Atlanteans again, and more, if you breed properly.
Concludingly, the future Giga Society members never "forget".
Date: Wednesday 17 June 2009
From: Milly <milly+fastmail.fm>
Subject: Aaargh! My head hurts...
Was the Thoth you know (future grail society member) born around 3500 BC, or was it another figure? You said there is only one Thoth. You know, if you're making up an unbelievable story, at least try to make it sound logical!
The Thoth we, the future Giga Society members, know was born during the fourth millennium B.C. Although superfluous, out of kindness the members point out said millennium runs from 3001 to 4000 B.C.
Date: Tuesday 16 June 2009
From: Milly <milly+fastmail.fm>
Subject: I'm catching up slowly...
So what was the date (if we're... I mean... I am today in 2009) of the natural disaster which occured five millennia before that pseudonym's birth?
By the way, I'd like to thank you giga-geniuses very much for spending your super precious time (and minds) on useless conversations with little me.
Thoth says the date the asker asks for is 5 June 8498 B.C. In addition, the future Giga Society members are not all geniuses and never engage in "conversations".
Date: Monday 15 June 2009
From: Milly <milly+fastmail.fm>
Subject: Regarding atlantis again
About the original "Thoth" (not that fake wannabe you're hooked up with) - What's his story? My reliable fairy tell-tales tell me that after that lucky comet hit he somehow managed to make a 'get-away'. Oh, and please excuse my contemporary idiotic expressions.
Thoth made a "get-away", as the asker calls it, by being born five millennia after the disaster, from direct descendants of the Atlanteans who had survived by being stationed in outposts of the Atlantean civilization at the time. Thoth wishes the asker to know there is only one Thoth.
Date: Thursday 11 June 2009
From: Milly <milly+fastmail.fm>
Subject: Not that I believe in Yovev more than in Brozzel -
But what if the code he had asked you to send back was the winning sequence in a 500,000,000$ lottery?! Don't you think this was a bit irresponsible?
The future Giga Society members point out that the condition in the asker's first question is not met, and that this has from the start on been transparent to the members, as all of the received messages, including those that appear "future" to the asker, are already present in the Green Lodge while these replies are formulated.
Also, the suggestion that "Yovev" and "Brozzel" are not real is absurd. How on Earth could anyone, even a future Giga Society member, make up a being as amazing as Ribbert Brozzel the high I.Q. genius? The thought alone is laughable. Ribbert Brozzel the high I.Q. genius surpasses all imagination; One can only bow one's head in awe upon realizing the full extent of his capacities. Ribbert Brozzel!
Date: Wednesday 27 May 2009
From: Ivan Yovev <ivan_yovev•20090527220000•yahoo.com>
Subject: maybe it is impossible to happen
Yes , the error has been realized , but I had already sent the message.
Very Sorry. But please be good and kind to look for the next and final day of the week. Actually I do not know what the verbatim quotation would be , I have already put four letters and the rest would be filled according to the result of an event on 31 May. Interesting that there is no point to send the quotation if I do not receive it before 31 May.
But I want only to compare it. It sounds me like a paradox!
The future Giga Society members have looked at the messages of both Saturday 31 May and Sunday 31 May, and verified that the verbatim quotation given under the message of 25 May is accurate, and that nothing has been received on 31 May that deviates from it. Therefore it has herewith been proven, as (to the asker) future readers will note, that t-mail is "real". Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!
Date: Monday 25 May 2009
From: Ivan Yovev <ivan_yovev•20090525220000•yahoo.com>
Subject: confirmation
Dr. Whither,
On Saturday 31 May 2009 I intend to send you about 15 letters quoted.
Would you please send them back in a reply of this current message - you should already received them although I am going to send them after some days.
I want to assure myself(and not only) you are really from the future and "t-mail" is real.
I have already written four of the letters on their unique positions on a sheet of paper.
Whatever you send , I promise to send you what I have already planned and to be honest.
Thank you in advance.
The future Giga Society members refer to their reply to the message of 19 April 2009, which applies to the present case as well. In addition, the members are dismayed and point out it is rude and displays distrust to "test" who have not asked to be tested. They would not even respond to a message like this if it were not for their extreme naivety and kindness. So here is a verbatim quotation of whatever is stored in the RAIRAID as having been sent by the asker on Saturday 31 May 2009; The asker is warned that the psychological shock of realizing t-mail is real might harm the asker:
" "
The future Giga Society members further stress that what is "already written" or "planned" is irrelevant and beyond their knowledge; The members only know what is in the actually received messages as stored in the Green Lodge, in this case the supposed message of Saturday 31 May 2009 claimed by the asker to have been sent by the asker on Saturday 31 May 2009.
Finally, the future Giga Society members express their determination to not cooperate in any further experiments to "confirm" whether they or t-mail are "real".
Date: Friday 22 May 2009
From: Milly <milly+fastmail.fm>
Subject: You got me curious
Nuclear explosions are natural on the sun, not on earth. But lets move on to the obvious question: What was it which brought down the atlanteans?
The future Giga Society members know from reliable sources that the core of the Atlantean civilization, located on several islands, was destroyed by a natural nuclear explosion which occurred upon the impact of a fragmented comet. Outposts of the civilization survived and later contributed to the first historical civilizations in Egypt and the Americas.
Date: Thursday 21 May 2009
From: Milly <milly+fastmail.fm>
Subject: I wonder what brought that civilization down...
I guess we'll never know for sure.
You talk about raising genetic intelligence, using means that do not differ much from the normal course of nature (a selection process which could take thousands of years to reach a satisfactory effect), yet the very element which you are working on to increase is the one thing that seperates men from nature and makes them evolve all sorts of things without consideration to the slow pace of nature. Don't you notice a strong contradiction here?
The future Giga Society members do not notice any contradiction as the asker suggests. In addition, there are several mistaken assumptions in the question which no doubt have led the asker astray, resulting in this erroneous question. Out of kindness, they are pointed out, although in general the future members avoid responding to messages in cases where the response would largely exist of a list of pointed-out errors:
Then, it must be said that it is well known what brought the Atlantean civilization down. Since the asker does not ask this, it is not answered. And finally, the future Giga Society members trust it has now been displayed once and for all why questions containing false assumptions can not be treated (One fool could keep a thousand wise men busy for eternity if such questions were always kindly treated as shown above, as each false assumption really constitutes a "question" in its own right, and as those inclined to include assumptions in their questions typically include many, and typically get their assumptions wrong); The proper treatment of assumptions in questions is explained splendidly by the Psychometitor, and submitters of t-messages are expected to have acquainted themselves thoroughly therewith.
Date: Wednesday 20 May 2009
From: Milly <milly+fastmail.fm>
Subject: Wow, looks like I'm the only girl around
Was there really, some millenia ago, another continent in the atlantic ocean?
(You know, that legendary "Atlantis" from all of these unreliable stories)
There was no other continent, but there were islands and an Atlantic civilization that no longer exist, which is what you probably mean. In fact, Thoth, with whom we are in occasional contact, is a direct descendant of the Atlanteans.
Date: Monday 18 May 2009
From: Milly <milly+fastmail.fm>
Subject: A trick question
Can we write to you in any language we wish?
(considering the superior translation technology of your time)
Only insofar the asker wishes to write in languages the asker masters. The future Giga Society members sense however this is not what the asker meant to ask, the question which the asker failed to formulate being, "Can you understand all languages?" The answer to that question would be "Yes", while it must emphasized that no superior translation technology is claimed to exist in "our" time, and on the understanding that toward visitors of this page it would be inconsiderate to use non-current languages.
Date: Sunday 17 May 2009
From: Milly <milly+fastmail.fm>
Subject: Never heard of any Ribbert Brozzel
Have you been drinking?
(Rhetorical question)
If someone went back in time to, say... 1990, and tried to kill (permanently) Raymond Kurzweil, is there any chance for him to succeed with it?
The question can not be answered as it contains the false assumption that the physically going backward in time of a thus inclined individual is possible. Out of kindness, it is further pointed out that the difficulties of physical time travel in the backward direction are of such magnitude that only those whose considerations are on superior ethical and intellectual planes to begin with may succeed.
In addition, the future Giga Society members express disbelief and wonder as to the asker's not having heard of Ribbert Brozzel the high I.Q. genius. How, do they ask, can any one not have heard of Ribbert Brozzel the high I.Q. genius, who keeps over sixty unconscious models rolled up in his New York City apartment? Of Ribbert Brozzel the high I.Q. genius, praised by dozens of I.Q. society journal editors for the thitherto unseen quality of his writing?
Date: Saturday 16 May 2009
From: Milly <milly+fastmail.fm>
Subject: I have lots of questions
Who in your opinions was the greatest thinker of the 20th century?
What an easy question! Of course, it is Ribbert Brozzel the high I.Q. genius! Who else could it be! Ribbert Brozzel the high I.Q. genius, a self-confessed professional test-taker for over twenty-five years! Ribbert Brozzel the high I.Q. genius, with an I.Q. known to less than 99.997 % of mankind, based on independent psychological testing under 3/1000 of the first percentile! Ribbert Brozzel the high I.Q. genius, author of hundreds of profound essays in high-I.Q. journals yearly, guaranteed to leave the reader in amazement! No one who read his work failed to instantly recognize the unique nature of his talent! And the originality of his topics! And the the the fluency of his sentences and complete absence of er the errors fluency of of sentences and complete absence of errors! Yes, those sparkling lines, the unheard-of topics, that is the mark of Ribbert Brozzel the high I.Q. genius! We, the future Giga Society members, look forward to having his soul weighed by Thoth to finally reveal the true extent of this genius, after which Ribbert Brozzel the high I.Q. genius will be allocated appropriately as explained in the article referred to in our previous reply.
Date: Friday 15 May 2009
From: Milly <milly+fastmail.fm>
Subject: Plus sign works great
Have any of you uploaded his/her consciousness to a computer?
The future Giga Society members thank you for this important question. The simple uploading of a mind, in that literal sense, has not taken place. What is done successfully is closely similar to the brilliant method first published by the Psychometitor in the late twentieth century, in a to us legendary paper called HEAVEN.COM. We are in contact with or aware of several who chose that path; It pleases us eternally to inform that Thoth knows no mercy, and that some - in particular, those who cheated with their admission test - now reside in FLAMINGHELL.EXE as so appropriately predicted.
Others will go further, expanding dimensions and conduction velocity of the new brains to explore the boundaries of intelligence. We hesitate to give details as yet.
Date: Friday 8 May 2009
From: Hi Cue <vviiipptest•20090508105500•yohaa.mock>
Subject: Send us Dr. Cooijmans' tests and answers!
We, who thrice daily bath in venomous frog transpiration, applaud your dismissing the impostors of 2070 and 2046! Hi Cue, who are two, are the REAL new Psychometitrae! Code word: Plotzky.
We already did the next test as in the 2046 case! Indeed, we survived our trial unexpectedly by Angelic Divine intervention, and doctors became very understanding and helpful when we told about you, Prominent future Giga members, and the Time Paradox codes on our bodies. It was as you said; The doctors - bad handwriting! - scribbled the error codes on small pieces of paper. Both read: haloperidol8mg/day. What's that for a decimal expansion!
So now send us test materials! Especially the Nemesis! And don't forget that no-brainer puny Isis!! Let your good-for-nothing Dr. Cooijmans retire. Money is his game! Eugenics is his aim! Give him the euthanasia pill!! Make it a depository! We'll continue his legacy upon receipt of all tests and score charts. Well, as soon as they let us out of the institute, that is.
The future Giga Society members are honoured to hear from your prominent personalities. The provided code word is right, we confirm that you are writing from May 2009. Congratulations!
The "error code" you cite, alas, resembles not remotely the decimal expansion of any bona fide Time Paradox Error thrown. In fact, we do not know what it is, although some doctors here whisper it seems somehow appropriate for you both, in particular if administered in the way you kindly advise for the Psychometitor's euthanasia pill. We hope that you fare well in your further psychometric undertakings.
Date: Tuesday 5 May 2009
From: Cronos •2009050513320000•
Subject: The future ahead
Dear Sirs,
Do you communicate with future-to you-Giga members and, if so, using the very same technology?
Thanks for your reply.
The future Giga Society members do communicate with even more remotely future members. This is not with the same technology however, as some remotely future members, in particular Thoth, the Grail Society member, have more advanced methods at their disposal.
Date: Monday 4 May 2009
From: Cronos •2009050413320000•
Subject: t-mail under the hood
Dear Sirs,
Let me ask two questions that are related to each other despite going against your instructions.
What is the mechanism to mirror pages back in time?
Do you communicate with future -to you-Giga members and, if so, using the very same technology?
Thanks and regards.
As the asker knows, only one question at a time is allowed. The future Giga Society members therefore will parse the asker's message, extracting the first question and discarding the remainder:
That is an important question, for it inquires after a technology which does not exist in your era. It is as follows: After nine decades of time encapsulation, it was observed that the soil surrounding the Green Lodge had undergone change. The precise cause of this change is yet mysterious; It may be the long-term protected data storage, or the released stress hormones of poor souls trying to approach the site, or something else still, or any combination thereof. In any case, the soil seems to have hardened and to have acquired an unusual property: When a ball or bullet is manufactured of it by heating and compression, and that ball or bullet given an initial velocity ("fired"), it spontaneously converts its mass to kinetic energy, such that its velocity doubles every two seconds until all of its mass has been used up. Then, it decelerates to its initial velocity, converting part of its energy back into matter again.
Given sufficient initial mass, a moore bullet - the substance is called "moore" - will reach the speed of light within a minute and, if its available energy has not yet run out, travel backward in time for the section of its trajectory that lies beyond light speed. By carefully calibrating a bullet's mass, direction and elevation angle ("taking aim"), it can be sent to a location and time of one's choice (wherein "carefully" is used euphemistically, as the bullets may be underway for several hundreds of light years). The initial velocity may be used to encode information; For instance, one may use 50 metres per second for a "0" bit, and 100 m/s for a "1". A moore bullet catcher then senses the bullets' velocities at arrival and stores those, minus some transport header information, in a file, which your web browser is displaying while you read this. Since the number of - albeit tiny - bullets needed for one page lies in the order of ten to the fifth, the bullet catcher requires frequent emptying. To avoid any moore from falling into the wrong hands, all catcher residue is deposited in the immediate surroundings of the Green Lodge.
Date: Tuesday 28 April 2009
From: Dylan Barnes <inquisition•20090428004800•gigasociety.com>
Subject: Interested
This "Giga Society" interests me greatly, but the whole, "we keep you dumb for protection from yourself," fixation confuses me.
I share the same values as the "Psychometitor." Human degenration is blatently apparent; for example, it is not common that one would inject a foreign substance into one's body to induce a "high" by killing off brain cells and deadening synapses.
But those who scower this site and relative others surely must have atleast a basic understanding of concepts considered esoteric in this generation, such as using encapsulation methods to create a link between time slices.
Hypothetically speaking, (considering I am only human with reasonable doubts) what would further enlightenment of the "t-mail" methods require? I am only 15 years of age, but feel that if this method is viable, it would be too exponentially valuble to pass up, even if I do risk humiliation by a man reading these messages within relative time from the date of this message.
Alright then, we will reveal how time encapsulation works to convey messages to the remote future; To protect sensitive visitors of this page though, the future Giga Society members provide the following classified information in code. We trust the most advanced of you will understand exactly what is meant:
The essence of t-mail has already been explained in response to your previous message. What remains is the precise method of protection used to encapsulate the lodge which contains the durable storage medium: Movement detectors are located around the lodge. Whenever one approaches the site, a hidden Public Address system begins to play back, softly but unmistakably, the old favourite "Paloma blanca" (also known as "Una paloma blanca").
No man in his right mind will continue his approach.
For the odd disturbed souls who remain unaffected, the encapsulation method has been made fail-safe; That is, it then continues to the complete works of ABBA, but with all of the vocal parts done by Meryl Streep, Mr. Pieter van Vollenhoven on the piano, and in an orchestration by James Last and André Rieu. In almost a century, no one has come close to the Redundant Array of Independent Redundant Arrays of Independent Disks kept in the Green Lodge.
Relative to your acuity in decoding the prior three paragraphs, you now know all about t-mail and time encapsulation.
Date: Monday 27 April 2009
From: Dylan Barnes <inquisition•20090427074800•gigasociety.com>
Subject: On what basis
On what basis is this "t-mail" function based on? Time can only be manipulated theoretically through software models, and they function only in a range of positive values. Reverse-time manipulation is impossible, and unless you have devised a vise capable of anti-gravity, time travel is ridiculous.
The future Giga Society members are surprised it took so long for one to formulate this question. T-mail is much more simple than you suggest. It works through encapsulation. The t-messages from gigasociety.com are sent by regular e-mail to a computer that stores them permanently on a durable medium. This is kept in a hidden protected lodge, so that messages once stored remain isolated from the normal course of time. The nature of this protective encapsulation is almost too horrific to speak of. Do not tempt us to tell. Sensitive readers would lose good sleep over it. Be assured that those who tried to approach the lodge over the past century enjoyed several less than pleasant moments.
In our time we simply reap the harvest you have sown; That is, we read the stored messages, and publish the least uninteresting ones with replies on the Giga Society web site. The relevant pages in turn are mirrored in their appropriate time slices, such as yours. We have not claimed to practice time travel.
Date: Monday 20 April 2009
From: Milly <milly.fastmail.fm>
Subject: That was a smart answer
Message: So you are not going to give any hard proof that you're not lying. Actually, you rather have people believe that you do lie about all this...
If you are, by some circumstance, telling the truth though, then doesn't changing the past affect your present?
Since it is not claimed the past is being changed that question is irrelevant. Incidentally, the future Giga Society members find the suggestion that they might be lying bizarre, as that would imply their non-existence, and it is unusual for non-existent persons to lie.
Date: Sunday 19 April 2009
From: Milly <milly.fastmail.fm>
Subject: A straight question
Message: If your answers go back through time, why aren't they published immediately as (or before) the questions are sent? Why does it "take you time" to answer?
Although it is technologically indeed possible to make the replies appear instantly or even before you send the question, the psychological shock of seeing that happen and realizing its implications has been empirically shown over the (for us) past century to kill one in two-hundred t-mailers. So to prevent you from becoming the umpteenth to be found death at one of our messages, we purposely project it to your near future.
Another reason to "delay" our replies is to avoid giving you instant gratification, which in unconscientious (and therefore many) humans causes the phenomenon of "getting hooked" and uncontrollably sending message after message at ever shorter intervals, leading to involuntary hospitalization or worse. Additionally, our inbox is flooded thus; Do realize we are receiving t-mail not only from your time slice but from the several decades ahead of you as well. As an illustration, we may occasionally display a message from your somewhat remote future here; Such messages are psychologically safe, as you will refuse to believe they are real to protect your sanity.
Date: Saturday 18 April 2009
From: The Iconoclast
Subject: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES
Message: Has there in *your* past been a rebuttal of the JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES' ideology that would be accepted as true by them, when presented to present day JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?
Thank you.
No. In fact, several of the future Giga Society members are going cave-to-cave each Sunday to offer free Bible studies and spread The Watchtower.
Date: Friday 17 April 2009
From: Ivan Yovev , ivan_yovev.yahoo.com , Glia Society member
Subject: intelligence
Message: Can you tell us whether there are methods (and which are they?) to increase intelligence even for some hours? For example any vitamins , pills , foods , music , ....
Yes. But the future Giga Society members will not do so as that would rob you of the satisfaction of finding that out for yourself, which is an irreparable loss.
Date: Friday 17 April 2009
From: Milly <milly.fastmail.fm>
Subject: Well that ruined my plans...
Message: Are you implying that there is absolutely nothing anyone can do to bring the end of humanity until your time arrives?
No. Although superfluous, it is pointed out that to say that the world will not end on one particular date in no way implies that it could not end on any date before or after that.
Date: Friday 17 April 2009
From: I. Y. ; the xx(x+1) Glia society member.
Subject: questions
Message: I have 4 questions.
1. What would happen if you tell us how to invent something that will be invented somewhere in the middle of our and your present time? Is that change the date of invention?
2. Receiving energy from nothing is not possible nowadays. Is it the same in your time and if yes , how do you explain that energy has appeared since the fact universe exist?
3. Multiplying long numbers by the standard method ; and only with pen and a sheet of paper is very long procedure. Is the following idea(if possible) released in your time:
To transform the numbers into something like figures or pictures and only by logical ways to change them(f. or p.) which would result into another ones get ready to be transformed into the final number.
4. Is it possible he was not born U.G. in **98 , but B.S. to has made him somehow such a man?
Thanks in advance.
The future Giga Society members kindly request to limit oneself to one clearly formulated question at a time. Out of kindness, the following answers are provided still: 1. It would be invented. No. 2. The possibility of receiving energy from nothing is the same in both times. The energy in the universe is part of the universe and has not appeared within it, and what has not happened need not be explained. Also, there is no "stage" outside of the universe against which the universe or its energy is appearing or "has appeared". 3. No. For extra information, that idea has long before been released (o. and d.), and the future Giga Society members would not dream of using any other method. 4. Of course, why not? Think of what happened to I.F.P. in *#21, who was made like that by U.C. Not to mention T.G.W.A. in (!*492, let alone P.J. in ***_9348576346.
Date: Friday 17 April 2009
From: Milly <milly.fastmail.fm>
Subject: I have a serious question please
Message: From your position, can you tell me the likelihood of the world to end on 21/12/2012 ?
Yes. But that is probably not what you meant to ask; Assuming you meant to ask what that likelihood is, the answer is "Zero".
Date: Wednesday 15 April 2009
From: Charles Peden <charles.peden.21001231235959.cgi.net>
Subject: Hello from Benbrook
Message: It was an absolutely stunning day in Fort Worth, Texas today. Just a wonderful cool temperature, clear skies, and a hint of breeze.
I got on the Internet today to look up Wolfram|Alpha. Thought maybe I could get a clearer picture of what exactly it does and how I can use it. It will not be live for another few weeks and I am trying to figure out if it is worth getting excited about.
I am planning on taking my test to see if I qualify for Mensa this Thursday. I already failed to qualify for Glia. I may be too rigid. I had a girl from accounting tell me today that she thought I should join a debate team. She mentioned that it concerned her when she had to come over and visit our department because she was afraid of getting into a debate with me. This surprised me. I withheld my reaction to tell her she was wrong about me...for obvious reasons.
It is kind of sad to think of the future. The chaos and uncertainty of this time in which I live leaves me feeling that the future is dominant and abusive to the past. It is going to abandon me and erase my existense. In the end, perhaps I will have done nothing but pretended that I mattered. I certainly could have done more with my life if not for the cruel devices and traps laid in my path from the cold, unforgiving future.
Oh, and just in case.
Dear future people. Please send money. Lots and lots of money. $82,000,000 should be okay. Please include instructions for investing and let me know how NOT to distribute it. Full initial consultation is advised.
Oh my god, the Ambien CR is kicking in.
Will you love me in the morning?
Charles Peden
The future Giga Society members assume the latter question is rhetorical. A way to send actual money through time has not yet been invented, which eliminates the need to tell whether or not the members would do so in this case. Regarding investment or distribution however, it is emphasized that money is best invested in individuals who are highly creative as defined by the Psychometitor, and that money should NOT be distributed among those who require instruction or consultation as to what to do with it, or those who are not creative (which by definition includes all of those who are not conscientious).
Date: Saturday 11 April 2009
From: A Curious Sort of Person
Subject: Email
Message: Will there still be email/tmail in the future?
The future Giga Society members are dismayed with the regrettable quality of the first t-mail message ever sent from their web site. In case an answer is still needed: Yes, as already implied by the existence of this very t-mail project itself.